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Tips for sales/swaps/wanted


1. Always note the number of posts a member has made. The more posts, the greater the chance of the person being more widely known. Members of AirGunForum who break the forum's rules, including acts of dishonesty, don't last long.


2. Do a search on the member's name in the sales and wanted forums to see how many deals have been done. The more activity in the sales/wanted forums, the safer your deal will be.


3. Don't be afraid to ask on the open forum, once an agreement has been reached, for members to give their experience with the other party.


4. If someone asks about your sales record on the open forum, don't feel insulted, it's a sensible thing to do and if you're honest, it will re-emphasise that.


5. ALWAYS get the other party's name and address. You can always check online phone directory services to see who the phone is registered to at that address.


6. Also, compare the name and address given for delivery of goods or payment with the location that the member shows in their personal profile.


7. Try to complete your deal using posts on the open forum, then, in the event of a problem requiring intercession by the board's staff, all details are viewable. Dealing by email or PM (Private Message) results in a lot of "I said", "He said" comment that is not readily provable. It is one of the reasons that AirGunForum limits members' edit time to 30 minutes, so "history" cannot be changed or covered up by deliberate changes.


8. Sometimes, it may be better for a parcel delivery to be sent to a neighbour's/friend's/relative's address where they are at home all day. If that is requested, DO ensure you get your trading partner's address and the relationship he has with the person at the alternative address.


9. Beware of using PayPal, they will NOT reimburse for guns!


10. Always pack items adequately. Consider splitting a rifle's stock and action to make a parcel look less "gun-like", but check first with your trading partner if that would be acceptable.


11. Retain serial numbers where applicable before posting.


12. First class post carries with it compensation up to ten times the cost of a current first class stamp for letter post, provided you can prove you sent the item and the recipient is adamant about non-receipt. Always ensure there is adequate insurance on your post and be certain to ask at the Post Office for a proof of posting. They will groan as it takes a short time to complete and it's free, but it is proof that you sent a parcel to your trading partner. (It doesn't prove what is in it, though.)


13. DO remember that the forum simply brings together like-minded people. Membership of the forum and number of posts are not a measure of a person's integrity. The forum cannot vouchsafe the integrity of any member and places that responsibility firmly on the shoulders of trading partners.


14. Forum members are actively encouraged to report suspected dishonest practise to Administration, who will endeavour to arbitrate (subject to time limitations) and take action judged appropriate to the circumstances. Admin prefer such reports to be emailed at admin@airgunforum.net rather than via the board's PM (Private Message) system.


15. AirGunForum members should consider a final post in their thread with comments like: "Sold to " or "Sorted with " so admin can amend the post title and all other members can see with whom a satisfactory deal was closed. Members might also make good use of the "Good Deals" thread, pinned at the top of the "For Sale" forum.


16. If you say you'll buy something from another member and your offer is accepted, you have both entered into a VERBAL CONTRACT and while it is relatively difficult to make you complete that contract, if a complaint is made about your actions then you may find yourself suspended pending an explanation to admin and the other party. If you change your mind, have the fundamental decency to tell the other party and offer an explanation. That may very well preserve your reputation and keep your friends on all of the boards - remember, bad news spreads fast!


Finally a comment often made by victims

If you are ripped off, don't expect help from the police. Since you had a verbal contract, they will say it is a civil matter, goodbye.


© DaveL

February 2009

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