holly 3 Report post Posted March 30 I was shooting yesterday on our zero range , at 55 yards . there was a board with paper on it and next to it a metal target . i must have fired at least 50 pellets between them . on the paper no decent groups were visible . just the odd shot touching . ( very tricky wind in our wood , half of it is on a hill , half flat with a open field behind it ) BUT on the metal target , which was at the same height and only two feet away . windage was mostly an inch right to left and the groups were mostly within an inch or better . i have noticed this before , which is why i don't often shoot at paper ( unless indoors or when the leaves are fully back on the trees ) . conclusion , Paper Lies , Metal Tells The Truth ??? HOLLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 0 Report post Posted March 30 Just need redictability and consistency who cares what it groups like to an extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holly 3 Report post Posted March 30 I like groups Jon . they don't win anything in FT but if the rifle will not group . then proper zeroing is not possible , you will just be chasing the error . windage is more important . i am seriously considering retiring my old shutz and having the barrel machined to fit my steyr . ??? HOLLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 0 Report post Posted April 1 Wont fit Pain to sleeve up and never ever look right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holly 3 Report post Posted April 1 Yep probably right , shame . damn good barrel that ??? HOLLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
springboy 0 Report post Posted April 1 I’ve noticed the same. I always check zero on a metal plate,you get a more pronounced mark compared to paper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robF 0 Report post Posted April 3 Only fooling yourselves. The splat on plate is much bigger than a hole in paper which is why people say they can't shoot paper but can plate. Paper. You want results, work at them, don't shy away from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holly 3 Report post Posted April 4 Depends on the paint . personally my accuracy test is to shoot for the quarter inch bolts that hold the target to the stand . if you can get those on out to 55 yards . you don''t have much to worry about ??? HOLLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robF 0 Report post Posted April 6 Unlikely they are 1/4”. The standard bolt head size for the thread that goes through a knockover is 13mm. Ie 1/2” ish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holly 3 Report post Posted April 6 We use smaller bolts cos the standards at Carisbrooke are higher rob ??? HOLLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites