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No not the Jack Nicholson version where he says never to trust a f*rt, but good old fashioned trigger follow through....:rolleyes:

 

Since shooting the springer over the past week I've noticed that I'm lazy with follow-through, I think a PCP makes you that way unless you keep a handle on it.

Anyways shooting a springer soon shows up your deficiencies as it's brought into stark relief as you spit pellets out all over paper.

So, slight adjustment to my trigger to shorten the trigger stop as I hate hanging the trigger in thin air and I think I'm getting back to where i should be.

A week of intense dry-fire to reprogram the trigger and I reckon I'll be ready to shoot the ETL 3P Sunday...:woohoo:

 

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Oh dear i sense disaster.

 

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You sense right Jon . there is only one trigger Guru ??? HOLLY

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7 hours ago, holly said:

You sense right Jon . there is only one trigger Guru ??? HOLLY

 

Guru or Gnu?

I'm sensing you sensing disaster Jon, nonsense Holly taught me all I need to know which involves randomly adjusting said trigger including all the factory presets in the wanton hope that something works.

Failing that disassemble said trigger to find out why it won't adjust and on reassembly marvel at all the bits left over that you obviously didn't need in the first place.

As a last resort, bung said rifle on GunMug (after listing it's many faults on t'Net) and hope that they can't afford the ferry back to the Rock....:rolleyes:

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I always spend time with the springer as you learn so much from them, as you say the PCP lulls you into a false sense of security with regards follow through.

 

One bad thing with springers though is you are demoralised and you have a bad day with the springer it can really tip you over the edge.

 

 

Matt

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True Matt, but then I always like getting back to basics and nothing does that like a springer and basic scope.

The satisfaction from pulling off a difficult springer shot then helps with using a PCP.

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There is a big hole at my club , where you can throw all your springer's in . to  save you the trouble of digging one ??? HOLLLY  :thumb: :) :soj:

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Cancelled

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22 minutes ago, dc1 said:

Cancelled

 

What is Dave, your comment on follow through?  :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, holly said:

There is a big hole at my club , where you can throw all your springer's in . to  save you the trouble of digging one ??? HOLLLY  :thumb: :) :soj:

Is that where your socks are?

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33 minutes ago, AndyIoW said:

Is that where your socks are?

 

...and his wellies.

Probably best to leave them there as it'll save bringing the decomtamination unit out....:rofl2:

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59 minutes ago, Eaton Rifles said:

 

What is Dave, your comment on follow through?  :rolleyes:

The shoot 6th may

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19 minutes ago, dc1 said:

The shoot 6th may

 

Ah ok, well this is the follow through thread, so do you have any (clean) experiences with follow through you could share?  :rolleyes:

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Not discussing followthru after.climbing into a cab yestrrday to start work and there was a wetpatch on the seat and a funny (not) smell

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39 minutes ago, dc1 said:

Not discussing followthru after.climbing into a cab yestrrday to start work and there was a wetpatch on the seat and a funny (not) smell

 

Eh yuk!

Does that count as a chemical assault?  :rolleyes:

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Prostrate problems , that and piles . a lot of drivers suffer from it ??? HOLLY

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9 hours ago, Eaton Rifles said:

True Matt, but then I always like getting back to basics and nothing does that like a springer and basic scope.

The satisfaction from pulling off a difficult springer shot then helps with using a PCP.

I did swear blind back in 1994 i would keep up shooting springers as it improves your technique. Never touched one since just horrible things.

 

Since 1992 i have never followed through straight up unless i am checking for something.

Came about when i was sorting the short stroking back in 92, got it down to 1.4mm at full power no side effects, no has any where near since. 1st rifle made in 92 ran 2.6mm and 2nd used 3 times a week till 2005 ran 2.8mm, what that translates is can take 55 yarders on the move about same speed as if you were lined up on the plate and swung across in to kill area. Could hit trigger edge of kill and it would veer 10mm. Used to fire, blink, look away then back through scope quickly and see the targets fall.

One thing i found when went on to Anchurt back in 2005 was how slow it felt and tried to follow through or end up several inches away. Now the Anchutz are quite quick 5.5mm earlier S1, light hammers and stroke almost 3x shorter than latest AA at 14.2mm. Earlier AA EV2 were 1/4" and fairly heavy hammers. RN10 1/2" heavy hammer.

You can blind with science on the millisecs but all tests so far are flawed, above is real world usage over 13 years till 2005.

 

Because i got that used to the first two one off hand made rifles the only rifles i could shoot were the early ISP on a 30mm tube, they ran 1/4".

Even the GC2 was real slow in comparison which is just a Sharp Innova with a reg.

 

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The Anschutzes feel noticeably quicker than other rifles especially my FTP which was like a flint-lock by comparison.

I've compromised on the trigger follow-through and find that just holding the trigger in post release for a second or two feels the best for me.

All this pulling through to the stop stuff just felt wrong to me as I've always used minimal trigger movement.

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All you have to do to get good follow through is concentrate on seeing the pellet in the air at the target . simples ??? HOLLY

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FTP surprisingly quicker than you think despite that 14.2mm stroke brought about by a meduim/light weight hammer ala late 80's.

Anchutz newer ones last 14 years are faster but still slow to my first one off rifles i  designed and made down to the screw working it out as went along. The electric Daystates are quicker if you can ignore the felt perception.

Mr average wont be able to tell say between an Anchutz or Feinwerkbau to say an AA to FX. The people that can instantly tell by one shot are the type of people that have under gone some form of fast sports requiring reaction timing such as boxing, martial arts, Motor sports and bikes etc.

 

I leave the over lap factory set never use it shots gone or under way.

 

 

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I don't know whether the steyr is quick or not ? but on the standers your follow through has to good or M-I-S-S ??? HOLLY

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7 hours ago, holly said:

I don't know whether the steyr is quick or not ? but on the standers your follow through has to good or M-I-S-S ??? HOLLY

 

Ye gods, a nugget of truth at long last! 🤣

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Yesterday i was a standing God . well out to 25 yards anyway ??? HOLLY

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39 minutes ago, holly said:

Yesterday i was a standing God . well out to 25 yards anyway ??? HOLLY

 

Metal Art.jpg

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Nah that is Colin Jon . he is shooting his chome plated piece ??? HOLLY

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27 minutes ago, Jon said:

 

Metal Art.jpg

 

Haha reminds me of some of the trash that used to come out of Fords down here while they were supposed to be making cars....:rolleyes:

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Bet you wish you had a Mark 1/2 Ecort or Capri 1,2 or 3 now.

 

Capri i had was made in Germany with the coarse spline gearbox, always on it every night to keep it going. Eventually took it round the clock twice on 2 engines.

Used to buy mark 2 Escort after market stuff for it, Cibie H4 on all 4 running 130/90 could feel the heat from 12 foot away.

 

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My fave was the Lotus Cortina , in whit and green ??? HOLY

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13 hours ago, Jon said:

Bet you wish you had a Mark 1/2 Ecort or Capri 1,2 or 3 now.

 

Capri i had was made in Germany with the coarse spline gearbox, always on it every night to keep it going. Eventually took it round the clock twice on 2 engines.

Used to buy mark 2 Escort after market stuff for it, Cibie H4 on all 4 running 130/90 could feel the heat from 12 foot away.

 

 

Yep amazing how cars that were so common are now so rare. I never had a Ford of any description as I went straight to a Sirrocco and then Jap. Was funny with the VW as I was doing a lot of development work for Fords at he time and they always used to moan when I parked in their otherwise all Ford car park....:rofl2:

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There are none about Col , cos they all rusted away . like fiat's ??? HOLLY

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