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4 hours ago, Eaton Rifles said:

Looks like the course is challenging to say the least. This shows one lane and without the arrows you'd have zero chance finding those bad boys:

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Photos courtesy of Hector Medina 

 


Unless you had a lupe 20=50 Colin ??? HOLLY

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2 hours ago, Darron said:

After seeing day 1 results I’m saying it will finish like

 

1, Jack

2, Bertie 

3 Andras 

 

Difficult as some of the Johnny Foreigners seem to have got a measure of the course from the off, if they keep this up for the other two days our boys might have problems. Look at where the Welsh team are on day one....:rolleyes:

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As berty said . six and a half hours in that heat . our lads are just not used to it . with all those whistles . they must be more used to HFT by the look of it ??? HOLLY

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######ing it down over there a the moment according to Berties running report on his phone. Real Welsh weather to make the boys feel at home...:grin:

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Excellent news ??? HOLLY

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Today's been canceled after 7 or 8 lanes on the pm session due to the rain...

 

Matt

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Mickey mouse . we shoot in the rain . they shoot in the rain ??? HOLLY

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I was thinking that but remained a good boy.

 

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Pffft I quite like shooting in the rain.  Mind you lightning might not be such a good idea.

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Not keen on the rain, love snow but thats an impossibility the last 9 years or so.

Last time shot in snow might have been winter of 2009, couldnt make it up a small rise on the way to Shugborough, shoot still on at Far Coley - old crew.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Jon said:

I was thinking that but remained a good boy.

 

 

Makes a change Jon ??? HOLLY

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3 hours ago, NatS said:

Pffft I quite like shooting in the rain.  Mind you lightning might not be such a good idea.

 

No one LIKES shooting in the rain , BUT you can at least see the wind ??? HOLLY

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2 hours ago, Jon said:

Not keen on the rain, love snow but thats an impossibility the last 9 years or so.

Last time shot in snow might have been winter of 2009, couldnt make it up a small rise on the way to Shugborough, shoot still on at Far Coley - old crew.

 

 

 

I like the ground . hard shooting . but when you get it right . satisfying ??? HOLLY

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4 hours ago, holly said:

Mickey mouse . we shoot in the rain . they shoot in the rain ??? HOLLY

I think it was more to do with the lightening 

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then it not rain stan . it is a storm ??? HOLLY

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They're finishing off day two currently so that everyone ends up on two counting sessions at least.

Looks like it's still chucking it down so at least the Welsh will be fairly happy.

With Bertie only one down at close of play yesterday then he has to be back in contention.

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Amidst the failings, wonder if Berty could have pulled 3 points back if there was a 3rd day.

Either way a big well done on attaining 2nd i never doubted him for a podium finish.

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I feel sorry for the fella that won it . no matter how well he shot . that shoot will be known as a non shoot . ??? HOLLY 

 

PS i have said before that you cannot just allocate shoots and trust that they have it sorted . some one has to go and look see . bit like bainsee used to do for the GPs . where he used to come along and check it out , on the saturday . either that or they should be shot in GB . 

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They dont know any different, common sense to check things and double check again after.

Barry Longbottom used to come and vet HP courses late Saturdays in the 90's nothing new and fairly sure its in the rules. Certainly a case in MFTA the last 3 years supposed to be vetted on the morning of shoot by officials and chief marshal.

 

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Wonder what will come of this worlds in the aftermath ??? HOLLY

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From what I’ve read Poland had bad luck with the weather and that can’t be accounted for. As for the calls I’ve read that 90% plus we’re incorrect and that needs to be stopped.

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13 hours ago, holly said:

I feel sorry for the fella that won it . no matter how well he shot . that shoot will be known as a non shoot . ??? HOLLY 

 

PS i have said before that you cannot just allocate shoots and trust that they have it sorted . some one has to go and look see . bit like bainsee used to do for the GPs . where he used to come along and check it out , on the saturday . either that or they should be shot in GB . 

 

A lot can happen from the Saturday, the course needs checking properly on the day. Get the CM and all marshals out there to check the targets, should only be 15 mins tops unless there's a lot up trees.

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Its the  way its become, bet most of the calls were from certain countries only where its part of the package to do so.

We have it in certain clubs and their followers/minglers.

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On 8/26/2018 at 2:48 PM, Jon said:

Its the  way its become, bet most of the calls were from certain countries only where its part of the package to do so.

We have it in certain clubs and their followers/minglers.

 

Yep some countries regard it as sporting to call all targets missed.

They will have a shock in 2019 I suspect...:grin:

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They will if there shooting any where Near you Col ??? HOLLY

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I reckon i should volunteer as a marshal, 90% sure i would award a miss before going out!

Would want it on a yellow card basis as well, 2 calls your off.

 

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Here's my honest report for what its worth.

Villa Verde for registration/practice on Tuesday went well nice plinker set up and a small practice course. Temperature was around 33-35. Had some strange thing happen all my diallings for + 30 yards were bob on but my 25 20 15 10 yard marks all needed a number adding. So for 15 yards it says dial 4 on wheel I actually had to dial 5.  soon noticed March was under ranging on Tuesday after a couple of hours. Went back to plink reset everything. Shot some more lanes to confirm settings all was good. 

 

https://gopro.com/v/PVqry785z8dy

 

Wednesday back to Villa Verde back on plink at 50 yards I was slightly high the March had moved back. Left rifle a bit had a chat with the other lads that were arriving. I Chronograph the rifle to find 780 just how I like it. Went back to the practice course with Gilly Mangers Kev and Ian we all shot well and all was good. Our group then heading over to the comp area around 35 mins from villa Verde. They had a large plinker set up a few stalls Air Chrony, JSB, Maestro (Andras) also air filling station this time they had whips and gauges on.

We then went to see the competition course as we arrived late (13.45) the officials tried to stop us walking the course but as we had just climbed a small mountain we insisted on seeing some lanes. Had a chat with Jack Harris he was on his way down. He said it looked a gruelling course and predicted 6-7 misses would be a very good score. I got to the first lane on white course a 15mm and a 25mm up the side of the cliff face. Proper anti air craft shot. Just had chance to film a couple of lanes until battery ran out on GoPro. The marshals by this time were telling us we had to leave.

https://gopro.com/v/qd0MLbDWzwMp


Welcome Dinner and entertainment was interesting. We all gathered for the world's photo after that we were entertained by some locals dresssed up in traditional armour kicking the -excrement- out of each other. The main surprise was the Cannon they had don't think anyone was ready for when that went off. Dinner was nice

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Comp day Thursday arrives early start grabbed some breakfast arrived at the ground. Got on plink all fine. Then we started the hike up what felt like a mountain with all the kit. It was an endurance test to say the least. I ain't the fittest of shooters I know a lot of people struggled getting to their start lanes. White course for us my partners were a young Australian chap called Ryan and a Polish guy called Darrius. First lane for me was a 50 yard target and a 53 into the quarry. Knocked them both over then pulled the strings up to check pellet strike on paddle. Both just slightly low of centre. Noted that carried on snatched a kneeler a couple of lanes later then missed a 40 yard full size kill for wind. Picked wrong edge the wind was swirling and tricky to read. Got to cliff face first shot was a reducer next was nearly full range in a very high posistion. I watch Simon Evans knock them both over. I sat down thought aim low in kill knock some clicks off? In the end I just aimed low in kill and knock them over. I was doing ok holding the 2 by this time we must have been 3.5 hours in. Loads of stoppages some took 20-25 mins to sort. I kept the rifle in a bag but keeping out of the sun was a challenge no big trees for cover. I was drinking loads to keep hydrated as soon as you drank water I was sweating it out. Looked at thermometer it was showing 36. Next lane was up hill standers a full size and a reducer double dink this lane. So that was me on 4 didn't see either of the misses. Next lane kneelers hit the short one missed the long one felt a good shot didn't see it land. Gimme lane next got those then kneelers double dink this both low. This was when I knew scope had moved again. I was under ranging by around 4-5 yards never seen this before on the March. But never had the scope this hot for this long a period. Portugal was hot but you could keep the rifle in shaded areas.
Came off with 7 misses a little disappointed I didn't notice the scope move sooner. Never shot a course that was that intense before. After nearly 7 hours of shooting I was physical and mentally drained I made my way back down to the car park. A lot of people had issues and some surprising scores from some.

As we were late coming off because of 28 stoppages in our session we new the Springers wouldn't get done in time.

Friday we shot pm very hot morning set up on plinker and filled up with air. We got told that because the amount of target calls on day 1 no one would get a target checked if they call one today. Just a note added to the back of the score card. Then we got we were being delayed as the Springer shooters had to finish from the day before then go straight into there 2nd course.

Another quick zero check then we made the hot journey back to our start lane 22 on the blue course. You could hear rumbles of thunder in the distance but it was baking hot again 34 on the thermometer. Cleared first lane then missed another kneeler this I snatched poor shot. Cleared next lane then missed a long downhill full length reducer. Didn't see it land by this time the clouds were forming overhead it was getting very dark. Dropped another as it started heavy raining looked a good shot but didn't go down. We carried on for another couple of lanes missed another reducer and a stander thats when the shoot was stopped. We congregated under the 1 gazebo and the chrono tent brolly.
We waited for around 30mins but the rain was getting worse and rivers started flowing through the lanes. That's when the lightening started hitting the top of the cliff face. It was very close at times. The order was given to cancel the shoot.
We all legged it down the hill got in the car and made our way back to the hotel. The drive home was extremely dangerous roads were flooding.

Sergio called a meeting that evening to discuss what would happen. We all expected the shoot to be cancelled and to start the new course which would have been Black course the following day. Call the springers finished they had shot 100 targets. And make ours a 2 day shoot also. I got a call from Neil Thorneycroft at 21.20 asking me where my score card was. Neil was in the meeting I was having dinner with the mfta lads. I said I don't know were it is why? I guess it's with one of my shooting partners. Neil said the decision was made that we would would carry on the following day from our lanes we were on. If your score card is missing than all previous shots would count as zero (misses). I obviously said well that's a load of ***** Neil said that's the decision and its been passed unanimously. I said but the shoot was cancelled.


Well after a pretty -excrement-ty nights sleep we were up at 6am had to be on the course for 8am. Not sure why when we had shot 18 shots already. And the Springer comp had finished.

Rocked up at plink I found Darrius he had the score cards so it was all go. I probably wouldn't have bothered shooting if they had gone missing. As it was ######ing down a lot of people didn't shoot. Some were not happy with the decision to carry on some didn't want to get ###### wet through.

Anyway first lane 45 yards and a full range missed first target that put me on 7 misses 6 from day before looked a good shot but it didn't fall. Passed chrono tent then onto kneelers again managed to get them. Next lane was 2 air craft shots double dinked them. Didn't see pellet on either at this point I had the dreaded what's the point anymore the comp had turned into a farce. But I thought it's a team event to and not let them down. Got my head down cleared next 25 targets missing my last target for 10 misses.

Started a days shooting on 6 misses isn't ideal. Also I see it from the other side some people had some good scores in and didn't want to lose them.

I did wonder afterwards a lot of people did not go through the chronograph on the last day. They had the day before but what was stopping them tweaking.

I guess we all have to learn from this I am sure next year's World championships in England will be a great experience.

Here's the awards congratulations to all the winners.

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Jon , you would be to busy Gas Bagging to hear any calls ??? HOLLY

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4 minutes ago, Wrecker said:

Here's my honest report for what its worth.

Villa Verde for registration/practice on Tuesday went well nice plinker set up and a small practice course. Temperature was around 33-35. Had some strange thing happen all my diallings for + 30 yards were bob on but my 25 20 15 10 yard marks all needed a number adding. So for 15 yards it says dial 4 on wheel I actually had to dial 5.  soon noticed March was under ranging on Tuesday after a couple of hours. Went back to plink reset everything. Shot some more lanes to confirm settings all was good. 

Wednesday back to Villa Verde back on plink had 

 

We seem to have lost some of it wrecker ? did you enjoy what you did do ? HOLLY

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