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#1 SteveC200

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:08 PM

A Shamal up the club sprung a leak today so I've had a nose inside to see whats what. It turns out that some time in the distant past its been regged and its one of the reg O rings that is leaking. So have you chaps any idea who made this? 

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:16 PM

Hi Steve,

That was my Shamal.

Regged by Dave Welhan in Sept '93.

 

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:17 PM

It's done well then...

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:25 PM

Don't take it back to dave welham . when i took my early NJR with a converted air arms reg by dave , for Tony Belas . Dave threw it in the bin ??? HOLLY



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:25 PM

Certainly has . Sold it to Ron Crawford in about '94 when I got a RN10 Mk 2. As far as I know Ron used it from then onwards and it had never been serviced.



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:28 PM

Don't take it back to dave welham . when i took my early NJR with a converted air arms reg by dave , for Tony Belas . Dave threw it in the bin ??? HOLLY

 

The reg in it is a Dave Welham one not an AA one. 

 

Dave also cut the cylinder and action down as well at the same time ,basically making it a carbine . It improved the balance considerably, apparently he started doing this after making one for his daughter ??.



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:38 PM

I remember his daughter , a errr buxom wench . i never liked the sound of the shamal . it was more of a blatt than a crack . ??? HOLLY



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:43 PM

Never met her. And yep the Shamal did blatt but that improved after it was shortened.



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Posted 16 July 2017 - 11:16 PM

I had a airmasters Shamal , shortened action in a John welham stock . with olympic trigger the lot . that blatted too so i sold it . nice looking gun . i do like a good crack  , when firing . left over from my full bore day's . ??? HOLLY



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:14 AM

I bought Bazza's Shamal for Nikki to use and it was blindingly accurate for it's day, though a little too long as a rifle. Pretty sure it wasn't regged but it was very consistent. I seem to remember the trigger wasn't all that. 

I had an olympic trigger on my NJR circa '92 it was an extra £100 and the only difference from a standard trigger unit was the highly polished straight blade, easiest £95 Bill Saunders ever made I reckon....:rolleyes:



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 05:14 PM

Noway colin . yes the Olympic trigger was a bitch to adjust and took a couple of weeks to get right BUT once done it was as least as good or better than an EV2 trigger ??? HOLLY



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 05:54 PM

Ah the Sahamal. My first pcp,I can still hear that valve bouncing lol

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:00 PM

Noway colin . yes the Olympic trigger was a bitch to adjust and took a couple of weeks to get right BUT once done it was as least as good or better than an EV2 trigger ??? HOLLY

Have to agree with you Holly, the Olympic trigger IMO was better than the RN10's.



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:40 PM

They were getting good money a while ago . maybe not now . but the NJR was a good rifle , just too heavy . ??? HOLLY



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 06:19 AM

i bought a shamal with ft stock years ago from alan knock only 150 a real bargain :)



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:36 AM

Didn't they carry on under the guise of S300?

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:55 PM

Don't think so Stan . the RN 10 was next up after the NJR . a failed ten meter rifle as i remember it ??? HOLLY



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:12 PM

No I'm talking about the shamal. I thought it was called the S300 after the shamal.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:59 PM

Don't think so Stan . the RN 10 was next up after the NJR . a failed ten meter rifle as i remember it ??? HOLLY

That would be the RWS CA100 then.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:03 PM

What is that when it is at home Stan .??? HOLLY



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:07 PM

No I'm talking about the shamal. I thought it was called the S300 after the shamal.

 

I thought that the Shamal came before the NJR , known as the '100' series the TM,SM,XM and the NJR. 

 

The S300 was/is a single shot 'budget' sporter style rifle the forerunner to the 400. IIRC it had a very basic trigger mech.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:11 PM

What is that when it is at home Stan .??? HOLLY

 

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:41 PM

Ahh right RWS don't make anything , they market gear . so AA were selling it . or trying to sell it under RWS guise .did not have much success then ??? HOLLY



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:14 PM

As far as I can remember they took the CA100 , which as you correctly stated was a 10 mtr gun, and upped the power to 12 ft/lbs. Later it was re-branded as the RN 10 ( RN being Rob Nicholls who owned NSP Engineering where AA are based and the 10 for it's 10mtr heritage. The early ones had a barrel much longer than the cylinder and a muzzle break / weight not dis-similar to the FTP900's.

 

The rest is history as they say. We got the RN10 Mk 2 then a Mk3 reg and finally the Pro-Target FT which had the floating barrel from the factory and the famed or is that infamous Mk3 reg. I had a Mk 2 back in the day and quickly had one of Keith's lightweight shrouds put on it. 

From there the EV's followed finishing with the current EV2 Mk V , ooops I meant the FTP900.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:21 AM

the first two regs were not repairable i think . personally i thought the MK 111 reg was OK . mr welham seems to think that reg was " borrowed " from his design . the FTP is just a overweight , tarted up EV2 .really AA should stick to sporting rifles ??? HOLLY



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:36 PM

Was the Mk 3 reg not 'copied' / designed by Joe Korick in the states ?. I know that when Wayne serviced my PT, which has the Mk3 reg , he replaced a part  sourced from Joe.

 

When my RN10 Mk 2 reg failed Bill Sanders just had a Mk 3 fitted FOC as they were out then. So you could be right that  the earlier ones were not repairable.


Edited by Lofty, 19 July 2017 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:52 PM

No real difference between corricks regs and AA MK 111 reg , performance wise . but corrick did some lovely titanium cylinders .??? HOLLY



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:37 PM

Got a Ti cylinder on mine. It was John Walkers or possibly Rob's , either way it does make it balance better.

I'd guess that mine's a Mick Tronman one.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:29 PM

Very nice  ??? HOLLY






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